MY POST FROM A BLOG CONDEMNING JAMES ARTHUR RAY:
http://cosmicconnie.blogspot.com/2015/10/james-arthur-ray-death-lodge-sixth.html
As for myself, if I say I take full responsibility for my actions at ANY EVENT that is what I will do. The primitive, inferior humans always want to blame their bad decisions and choices on others. They don't want to take responsibility for their actions. This is the way of the dishonorable, primitive, inferior human.
If the situation was reversed I feel certain James Arthur Ray would have honored his vow to take full responsibility for his actions at that event. This is the way of the true Spiritual Warrior. The phony always wants to blame his or her bad decisions on others.
The three who died were supposed to be seasoned, risk taking warriors. From experience, they should have knowm their limits and when they can take no more.
IT WAS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO GET OUT OF THE SWEAT LODGE
IF THEY FELT THEY COULD NOT HANDLE IT!!!
You know this to be true although you are determined to blame their bad decisions on James Arthur Ray.
What about MOST OF THE PEOPLE who suffered no ill effects from the sweat lodge event? Don't you think their opinions count for anything? OF COURSE NOT!!!
WHY???
THERE'S NO MONEY IN IT!!!!!
James Arthur Ray is a fool who thinks that true warriors do not defend themselves. That is why he only called two witnesses in his defense. I have openly said that ANY WARRIOR who refuses to defend himself DESERVES to get his ass kicked. OHHHHHH MYYYYYY!!!! James Arthur Ray most certainly didn't like that! He banned me so don't come here thinking that he and I are all "chummy, chummy".
ANY WARRIOR WHO DOES NOT TAKE RESPONSIBILITY
FOR HIS OR HER OWN ACTIONS
AND/OR REFUSES TO DEFEND HIM OR HERSELF
IS ACTUALLY AN IDIOT AND DESERVES
WHATEVER MAY COME AS A RESULT OF THAT IDIOCY!!!
You may not like the truth, but it is the truth nonetheless
*This post will most certainly never see the light of day except here. That blog is heavily moderated. Any truth that goes against their stand will most certainly be deleted. You see, the primitive, inferior humans only like truth when it makes them feel all 'warm and fuzzy'. Truth that goes against any warped thing they may believe is unwelcome and unwanted.
I feel HELL is filled with many such people who reject truth in favor of their warped opinions.
At any extreme sporting events, like marathons, people get injured. That's just the way it is. Responsible adults DO NOT push themselves father than they can handle, period!! FOOLS DO push themselves too hard. Those who do have NO ONE BUT THEMSELVES TO BLAME for whatever may happen as a result.
What? Are the people sponsoring a marathon supposed to go to jail if someone dies of a heart attack at the event?
THINK ABOUT IT!!!
What? Are the people sponsoring a marathon supposed to go to jail if someone dies of a heart attack at the event?
THINK ABOUT IT!!!
THAT WAS AN EXTREME EVENT and people were warned, beforehand, IN WRITING that death might result from some of the activities. THEY PROMISED IN WRITING to take full responsibility for their actions at that event
IF THEY WERE HONORABLE
THEY WOULD HAVE HONORED THEIR AGREEMENT, PERIOD!!!
For the dishonorable, out to make a buck, there are fancy lawyers for whom honor counts for nothing as long as they can win the case!
I believe I remember reading that James Arthur Ray had a yearly excursion to Machu Picchu. He would do some extreme things with those who participated in that event. If someone had a heart attack and fell off the mountain James Arthur Ray would have gone to jail a lot sooner than he actually did.
YOU PEOPLE HAVE NO HONOR WORTH MENTIONING
IF YOU PROMISE ANYTHING IS DOESN'T MATTER.
YOU WILL BREAK YOUR PROMISE
IF IT IS CONVENIENT TO YOU
I would NEVER be dumb enough to put dishonorable idiots at risk at ANY EXTREME event. James Arthur Ray was a risk taker; as were the three who died.
IF YOU LIKE TO TAKE RISKS BE PREPARED
TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR (((YOUR))) ACTIONS
IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG!
Now, that's logical and reasonable
Fools think they can keep taking extreme risks and never suffer any adverse consequences as a result
TO THE OWNER OF THE BLOG:
I didn't see my responses and figured you would not release them. Apparently, I was wrong. I don't know if people who are not logged in can see my responses. I'm impressed that you actually allowed them to be seen.
TELL US, COSMIC CONNIE:
IF YOU PROMISED TO TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS
AT (((ANY EVENT))) WOULD YOU HONOR YOUR AGREEMENT?
WOULD YOU NEED TO SIGN A WAIVER TO KEEP YOUR PROMISE?
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IN OTHER WORDS:
YOU DO NOT WANT TO ANSWER MY QUESTION
BECAUSE IT WOULD INCRIMINATE THE FAMILIES
OF THE THREE WHO DIED
Look, I don't blame them for wanting to make money off this situation. However, I would not want my mother to do so if I went to that event and pushed myself too hard. I already asked her if she would sue Mr Ray or honor my written promise to take full responsibility for my actions at that event. She said she would honor my promise. You see, my mother is HONORABLE!! This is something you dishonorable just can't comprehend
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COSMIC CONNIE WROTE:
Knowing what I know now, I certainly would not participate in any event that required signing a waiver like the ones Ray had his participants sign. There are too many variables and extenuating circumstances when it comes to manipulation and coercion, making the concept of "full responsibility" a murky one -- both legally and morally.
MY RESPONSE:
In other words, you would consider it STUPID to attend such a risky event, eh? Hey, I'm a seasoned Bodybuilding, Martial Arts TRUE WARRIOR and I would not have attended that event even if all expenses were paid!
HOWEVER, if I did attend and felt ANY EVENT was too extreme for me I would simply not participate. I've read that a number of people simply did not participate in the sweat lodge event. That was THEIR CHOICE and not Mr Ray's, GET IT??? Probably not
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I SAY THE FAMILIES DISHONORED THE DEATH OF THOSE THREE WARRIORS
THE FINAL PROMISE ANY WARRIOR MAKES MUST BE HONORED
IT IS SACRED!!!
Of course, this is just too advanced for the dishonorable to understand. It makes no sense to the dishonorable. Breaking promises to make money makes perfect sense to the dishonorable. That's just the way it is!
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HOW ABOUT BEING HONEST AND ANSWERING THIS:
SHOULD THE CREATORS OF A MARATHON EVENT
BE HELD RESPONSIBLE IF SOMEONE DIES
AS A RESULT OF ATTENDING AND PARTICIPATING IN THE EVENT?
My bet is you will not answer honestly and try to change the subject. Such are the ways of the dishonorable
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THERE IS NO INDICATION that the three who died were brainwashed cult members. EVERYTHING their relatives had to say about them was glowingly fantastic!!! They were the very best among humanity!!
THIS WAS THEIR FAMILIES' BIG MISTAKE!!
They should have said those three were hopelessly brainwashed cult members who could not be trusted to make important decisions for themselves.
THAT'S WHAT THEY SHOULD HAVE SAID!!!
TOO LATE NOW!!!
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YOU ARE A LIAR!!!
I have the recorded testimonies of family members who spoke of those three who died. They NEVER SAID they were hopelessly brainwashed cult members. They were said to be the very best of people!!!
I donated to the site devoted to Kirby Brown. DID YOU?
Everything said about her, on that site, was glowing and fantastic!!
I said that I wanted my donation to go to the foundation so that they could help people who are dumber than dogs because dogs would not be dumb enough to stay in a sweat lodge if they felt it was too hot.
Oh, they didn't like that
However, they did not refund my donation
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
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LET ME MAKE IT PERFECTLY CLEAR:
I am convinced the Universe came down on Mr Ray for matters beyond human comprehension. Any supposed "warrior" who feels to be a true "warrior" means you do not defend yourself is an idiotic moron, period!!!
I have never really "followed" Mr Ray
What I eventually learned from this matter is that when the Spirit turns against you there is no escape. That is scary stuff!!! I want nothing to do with James Arthur Ray. However, if Mr Ray offered a million-dollars to speak with him for five-minutes. Heck, I might consider it!
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COSMIC CONNIE WROTE:
Do you honestly think that sending money to the foundation and accompanying it with crass insults puts you on some sort of moral/spiritual/intellectual high ground?
MY RESPONSE: Well, if they refunded my money as a matter of principle I would now have a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT VIEW of them. Since they OBVIOUSLY did not like the reason I donated and REFUSED TO REFUND MY MONEY because of the principle of the matter, it's clear enough for anyone to see...
THEY WERE OUT FOR THE MONEY!!!!
It was more than test enough, lady!!!
To be against Mr Ray because they say he was out for the money when THEY THEMSELVES were out for every penny they could get from Mr Ray REEKS of two-faced, dishonorable dishonesty!!
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THAT TRIAL WAS A SET UP!!!
I BELIEVE THE NATIVE AMERICAN WOMAN poisoned the hot rocks water during the last rounds of the sweat lodge event. I believe Mr Ray was set up because he had angered very high and prominent people of the New World Order agenda.
I believe they paid off that Native American woman to poison the last round waters with an organophosphate compound all traces of which would completely disappear after a short time. That is my CURRENT view, but I could be wrong.
HOW ABOUT YOU? COULD (((YOU))) BE WRONG???
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JAMES ARTHUR RAY was responsible for HIS OWN ACTIONS just as the three seasoned RISK TAKERS were responsible for THERE OWN ACTIONS!!!
Someone who was right next to Kirby shouted out that Kirby Brown was fine when one woman was standing up and yelling there was something wrong with Kirby.
ALL EVIDENCE PRESENTED POINTS THE PROVERBIAL FINGER TO JAMES SHORE as the person who was right next to Kirby Brown at the time. NONE OF YOU CARE to find out if the person who yelled Kirby was fine was actually James Shore. I wrote Mr Ray's attorneys MANY TIMES, on the Internet, I told them to find out who yelled that Kirby was fine because James Shore made himself Kirby's protector around the time they both died.
IF JAMES SHORE YELLED OUT KIRBY BROWN WAS FINE HE IS DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR KIRBY BROWN'S DEATH, NOT MR RAY!!!
OH, IF IT COULD BE PROVEN IT WAS MR RAY WHO YELLED OUT THAT KIRBY WAS FINE YOU WOULD WANT TO KNOW ALRIGHT!!
SINCE IT WAS PROBABLY JAMES SHORE WHO YELLED KIRBY WAS FINE YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW AT ALL, RIGHT?
YOU ARE DISHONORABLE SCUM FOR WHOM MAKING PROMISES MEANS NOTHING!!!
((( SPIT!!! )))
Someone who was right next to Kirby shouted out that Kirby Brown was fine when one woman was standing up and yelling there was something wrong with Kirby.
ALL EVIDENCE PRESENTED POINTS THE PROVERBIAL FINGER TO JAMES SHORE as the person who was right next to Kirby Brown at the time. NONE OF YOU CARE to find out if the person who yelled Kirby was fine was actually James Shore. I wrote Mr Ray's attorneys MANY TIMES, on the Internet, I told them to find out who yelled that Kirby was fine because James Shore made himself Kirby's protector around the time they both died.
IF JAMES SHORE YELLED OUT KIRBY BROWN WAS FINE HE IS DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR KIRBY BROWN'S DEATH, NOT MR RAY!!!
OH, IF IT COULD BE PROVEN IT WAS MR RAY WHO YELLED OUT THAT KIRBY WAS FINE YOU WOULD WANT TO KNOW ALRIGHT!!
SINCE IT WAS PROBABLY JAMES SHORE WHO YELLED KIRBY WAS FINE YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW AT ALL, RIGHT?
YOU ARE DISHONORABLE SCUM FOR WHOM MAKING PROMISES MEANS NOTHING!!!
((( SPIT!!! )))
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FIND OUT WHO YELLED OUT KIRBY WAS FINE WHEN SHE WAS ACTUALLY DYING!!
IT WAS JAMES SHORE!!!
JAMES SHORE WAS DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR KIRBY BROWN'S DEATH
SHORE WAS RIGHT NEXT TO KIRBY AT THE TIME!!
HE MADE HIMSELF KIRBY'S PROTECTOR AND WAS WHISPERING THINGS INTO HER EAR!!!
IF HE WAS INCAPACITATED SOMEONE WOULD HAVE YELLED THAT JAMES SHORE HAD PASSED OUT!!
YOU RUN YOUR BLOG AS YOU SEE FIT
I RUN MINE AS I SEE FIT!!
The most interesting thing about you is obviously this matter regarding the sweat lodge event. My blog has much more interesting things than your blog. It's a fact!! This sweat lodge matter is just a passing thing with me. For you it's the most interesting thing you have!!
That post I created saving my responses is long enough. I don't intend to devote any more posts to this sweat lodge matter.
As I stated, I would not have gone to that sweat lodge event even if it it was free. However, if I went and felt the sweat lodge was too hot I would get out AND STAY OUT!!! That would be MY RESPONSIBILITY, not Mr Ray's
There is NO INDICATION that the three who died were so weak-minded that they couldn't think for themselves. They were SEASONED RISK TAKERS who took one risk too many, That was THEIR RESPONSIBILITY, not Mr Rays'
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THE BOTTOM LINE AGAIN:
IF I MAKE A PROMISE TO TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR MY ACTIONS AT ANY EVENT
THAT IS WHAT I DO BECAUSE I AM HONORABLE
I DO NOT HAVE TO SIGN ANY WAIVER
BECAUSE I AM HONORABLE
This is something you just can't understand because you are NOT HONORABLE!!
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COSMIC CONNIE WROTE:
James Shore was impaired -- near death himself -- and in no condition to make an accurate evaluation of Kirby's condition. He carried one woman out of the sweat lodge and then went back to try to save Kirby.
MY RESPONSE:
Oh, so now you are trying to make people believe that James Shore went back into the sweat lodge to try to save Kirby Brown then passed out and died in the process with no one shouting out that there was something wrong with James Shore??
THAT'S A LIE!!!!
I HAVE THE TESTIMONY RECORDED!!!!!!
YOU CAN'T TRICK ME AS EASILY AS YOU TRICK OTHERS, YOU LIAR!!!
FIND OUT WHO YELLED THAT KIRBY WAS FINE WHEN SHE WAS ACTUALLY DYING
YOU DON'T KNOW WHO DID IT
I SAY ALL EVIDENCE POINTS TO JAMES SHORE
UNTIL YOU CLEAR THIS MATTER UP YOU WILL NEVER KNOW FOR CERTAIN
IN YOUR HEARTS YOU KNOW I AM RIGHT!!!
JAMES SHORE WAS DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR KIRBY BROWN'S DEATH
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HERE IS THE BIG PROBLEM FOR WHICH MR RAY IS COMPLETELY RESPONSIBLE:
It's was James Arthur Ray's event
It was James Arthur Ray who decided they didn't need paramedic personnel on duty for the TWO-HOURS of the sweat lodge event.
ONLY TWO-HOURS, FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!!!!
Well, Mr Ray didn't think that was necessary
BIG MISTAKE THAT ENDED UP SENDING HIM TO JAIL!!
Now, I'm sure we can agree on that, correct?
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WHAT WOULD IT HAVE COST, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!!
WHAT WOULD IT HAVE COST TO HAVE PARAMEDICS ON DUTY
FOR THE TWO-HOURS OF THE SWEAT LODGE EVENT?!!!
THAT'S ALL IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN
JAMES ARTHUR RAY WAS FULLY RESPONSIBLE
FOR NOT HAVING THEM ON DUTY THOSE TWO-HOURS
FOR THIS HE ENDED UP GOING TO JAIL!!
((( FOOL!!! )))
I don't consider myself some great spiritual leader, but I would see the value of having paramedics on duty for those two-hours. Especially with a recent New York Times bestseller to fall back on.
DUMB, DUMB, DUMB, DUMB...
I can't write enough "dumb" to properly describe just how dumb it was not to hire them!!!
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THERE IS A CORE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOU AND I, COSMIC CONNIE
((( YOU WANT DONATIONS )))
((( I DON'T!! )))
That completely shapes the difference in the way we post and the types of posts we share
YOU'RE A BEGGAR
I AM NOT!!
Of course, you will support ANY STAND that will lead to donations. Well, you ain't gettin d*ck from me, birch*!!!
*That's a duck and a tree
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
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Okay, let's get real here. SOMEONE should point blank ask James Arthur Ray:
'Suppose the situation was reversed and you signed a waiver promising to take full responsibility for your actions at the "warrior" event. Would you keep your promise or would you break it if slick lawyers offered you a way to make money by doing so?'
SOMEONE SHOULD OPENLY ASK JAMES ARTHUR RAY THIS QUESTION!!!
My guess is that Mr Ray would openly say that he is an honorable person and would keep his promise no matter how much money was offered him to break it.
THAT'S WHAT BEING HONORABLE IS ALL ABOUT!!!!!
Of course, this is BEYOND the comprehension of you dishonorable people who will break your promises IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT!! You'd break a promise to your own mothers, if the price was right!!!!
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I SEE THE OVERALL PROBLEM BETWEEN US
YOU are of the school of thought that I must care for people who don't care about me to be truly "righteous". Obviously, you all feel that Mr Ray should be held responsible for the death of those three "SUPPOSED WARRIORS*"
*PEOPLE WHO REFUSE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR OWN ACTIONS
ARE NOT WARRIORS!!!
Instead you felt Mr Ray should be held responsible for their deaths as though they were mentally retarded five-year-old children. You don't want them to be treated like responsible adults who made THEIR OWN CHOICES. You want those three to be treated as though they were irresponsible children with mental impairment.
THAT'S THE CORE OF IT!!!
IF THEY WERE TRUE WARRIORS THEY WOULD HAVE KEPT THEIR PROMISES
AND TAKEN FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR ACTIONS, PERIOD!!
That's what true warriors do, period!! You don't want to take responsibility for your own actions then you are NO TRUE WARRIOR!!!
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Okay, let's look at this matter from a different perspective. You and I are at that very same sweat lodge event. We are sitting together talking about how friggin hot that sweat lodge is and that we are hesitant to go in for another round.
James Shore, Kirby Brown and Liz Neuman come up to us encouraging us to go back into the sweat lodge. YOU AND I both feel as though we had had enough. Would you go back in because Kirby Brown, OR ANYONE ELSE, encouraged you to do so, or would you listen to your body and not go back into the sweat lodge?
Suppose YOU are so encouraged by them that you go back into the sweat lodge and you get injured.
WHO IS TO BLAME FOR THAT?
JAMES ARTHUR RAY OR YOU???
Who is to blame that I chose not to go back into the sweat lodge? James Arthur Ray or ME???
Can you see the logic here?
Probably not.
IF YOU FEEL IT IS TOO HOT DON'T GO BACK IN, YOU IDIOT!!!
NO MATTER WHO SAYS WHAT!!!
You people are trying to treat Mr Ray as though he forced those people to participate!!!
You treat him as though he forced those people to participate and three of them died!!
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Again I say, all Mr Ray would had have to have done was hire an emergency medical unit to be there for the two-hours of the sweat lodge event and...
HE WOULD NOT HAVE HAD TO GO TO JAIL!!!
Mr Ray decided he didn't need such an emergency unit and, AS A RESULT, was convicted and went to jail.
THAT IS THE CORE OF IT AND YOU KNOW IT!!!
YES, MR RAY IS FULLY RESPONSIBLE FOR NOT HIRING THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL UNIT
YES, MR RAY THOUGHT HE KNEW BETTER AND, I STRONGLY DOUBT, IF I WAS THERE ANYTHING I WOULD HAVE SAID WOULD HAVE CONVINCED HIM OTHERWISE
FOR THIS, MR RAY IS FULLY GUILTY!!!
HE WAS AN IDIOT AND PAID THE PRICE FOR BEING AN OVERLY-CONFIDENT, MORONIC, JACKASS IDIOT!!
If you are honest we can most certainly agree on this, right?
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To be perfectly honest, this whole James Arthur Ray incidence scared the living crap out of me. I felt God was showing me what can happen if the Spirit of the Universe turns against you.
I HAD TO BELIEVE that no such thing would EVER happen to me without first being given AT LEAST THREE clear warnings from the Universe. I only knew of one such warning and it happened the year before AT THE VERY SAME SWEAT LODGE EVENT and at Angel Valley, I believe. A woman came out of the sweat lodge and, for a while, was gibbering nonsense. She was a friggin proverbial 'basket case'!
The incident would have been enough warning for me to hire emergency personnel for the two-hours of the sweat lodge event FROM THAT TIME ONWARD!!! That Mr Ray ignored such a warning from the Spirit reeks of over-confidence. He was obviously too sure of himself and no one could get through to him!
BIG MISTAKE!!!!!
He lost most everything and went to jail as a result.
I think he's learned his lesson
I certainly hope so!
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TO REV RON:
IF YOUR PROMISE MEANS NOTHING IF YOU CAN MAKE MONEY BY BREAKING IT
((( YOU ARE HUMAN SCUM, PERIOD!! )))
IF YOU WENT TO THE SWEAT LODGE EVENT PROMISING TO TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS
AND BROKE YOUR PROMISE TO MAKE MONEY, THROUGH SLICK LAWYERS,
YOU WOULD BE DISHONORABLE HUMAN SCUM AND NO TRUE WARRIOR!!!
LIKE IT OR NOT, THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE, O GREAT REV!
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So, you are absolutely certain Mr Ray is just a scam artist, eh?
Nothing he has shared has any real value, eh?
You are absolutely certain he was lying in this recent interview, right?
https://youtu.be/3FiYOCtJGbo
GET REAL, CONNIE!!!
That is what you WANT to believe and absolutely REFUSE to believe otherwise no matter how much evidence is presented to the contrary
That's the way it is with you Godless atheists. You blindly feel you have it all figured out. In fact you are a bunch of blind faith in science idiots who pompously feel you know everything that can possibly be known!!
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Alright Con-artist-nee
Time for you to walk your talk
No one against The Secret has been able to pass this test
Let's see if you can succeed where all others have failed:
Here is a short summary of The Secret:
https://youtu.be/VIePKRqgGkY
List the three main things about this philosophy, from the video, that are obviously bogus
A)
B)
C)
Every skeptic I have challenged in this manner was not even able to get to "A". I predict you will not either because you are a SCAM ARTIST. You pass judgement against things when you DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!!!
That is why you will not be able to list the three main things about The Secret philosophy that you know are bogus!
YOU ARE A LIAR AND A SCAM ARTIST!!!
And you are about to be openly exposed as such!!!
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How about I give you some help because addressing three matters at once is OBVIOUSLY more than your puny intellect can handle.
The Secret essentially says that our thoughts, properly held and acted upon, literally create the circumstances of our lives.
A) Do you feel it is bogus to believe that how we think determines the type of lives we lead? If so. How so? Please be specific
Thanks
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The worst people you will ever come across always want to find something bad about good philosophies. If the Buddha said something great the Christians will put it down out of blind faith prejudiced ignorance
YOU ARE JUST LIKE THEM AND YOU HAVE PROVEN IT!!!
The Secret is a compilation and a modern building upon information about successful living known throughout the ages and put together in a nice commercial package by Rhonda Byrne.
So, you agree with the MAIN PREMISE The Secret teaches. The thoughts we think determine the life we lead. In harmony with that it is said:
If you believe you can do something or believe you can't, either way you're right
Do you agree with this premise as well?
BTW: You might find it interesting to know that I did not last so much as a week before being banned from the Official The Secret message board forum.
So much for unconditional love, right? New Agers and their bullshit "unconditional love". They ban me quicker than atheists do!!!
((( SPIT!! )))
I'm much too straight forward and honest for religious, New Agers or atheists to handle. You don't have to wonder what I'm saying behind your back I'LL TELL YOU DIRECTLY!!!!
James Arthur Ray doesn't like me and I don't think too well of him either. Warriors who refuse to defend themselves DESERVE TO HAVE THEIR BUTTS KICKED!!!
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CC WROTE:
All the powerful thinking in the world can't totally set the course of our lives. There are always external circumstances BEYOND OUR CONTROL....
MY RESPONSE:
You write this as though you are God of the Universe. I say it all depends upon how strong one's mind is. The average TV brainwashed idiot's mind is a mess. Give the philosophy to one with a mind as strong as the Buddha's and, chances are, the results may very well BLOW YOUR PUNY MIND!!
I have learned that there is indeed an intelligence behind Nature that regulates and determines what plant, or creature, will prosper and which one's will not. I've learned that to be on the good side of this Universal Intelligence is the key to making philosophies like The Secret fully functional.
The Secret alludes to this, but doesn't say it. Personally, I don't fully agree with ANYONE'S philosophy. My beliefs are ALWAYS UP FOR IMPROVEMENT.
If you are truly wise you will not be so certain what is or is not possible until you fully understand the role consciousness plays in our perception of "reality"
FIND OUT WHO YELLED OUT KIRBY WAS FINE WHEN SHE WAS ACTUALLY DYING!!
IT WAS JAMES SHORE!!!
JAMES SHORE WAS DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR KIRBY BROWN'S DEATH
SHORE WAS RIGHT NEXT TO KIRBY AT THE TIME!!
HE MADE HIMSELF KIRBY'S PROTECTOR AND WAS WHISPERING THINGS INTO HER EAR!!!
IF HE WAS INCAPACITATED SOMEONE WOULD HAVE YELLED THAT JAMES SHORE HAD PASSED OUT!!
YOU RUN YOUR BLOG AS YOU SEE FIT
I RUN MINE AS I SEE FIT!!
The most interesting thing about you is obviously this matter regarding the sweat lodge event. My blog has much more interesting things than your blog. It's a fact!! This sweat lodge matter is just a passing thing with me. For you it's the most interesting thing you have!!
That post I created saving my responses is long enough. I don't intend to devote any more posts to this sweat lodge matter.
As I stated, I would not have gone to that sweat lodge event even if it it was free. However, if I went and felt the sweat lodge was too hot I would get out AND STAY OUT!!! That would be MY RESPONSIBILITY, not Mr Ray's
There is NO INDICATION that the three who died were so weak-minded that they couldn't think for themselves. They were SEASONED RISK TAKERS who took one risk too many, That was THEIR RESPONSIBILITY, not Mr Rays'
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THE BOTTOM LINE AGAIN:
IF I MAKE A PROMISE TO TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR MY ACTIONS AT ANY EVENT
THAT IS WHAT I DO BECAUSE I AM HONORABLE
I DO NOT HAVE TO SIGN ANY WAIVER
BECAUSE I AM HONORABLE
This is something you just can't understand because you are NOT HONORABLE!!
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COSMIC CONNIE WROTE:
James Shore was impaired -- near death himself -- and in no condition to make an accurate evaluation of Kirby's condition. He carried one woman out of the sweat lodge and then went back to try to save Kirby.
MY RESPONSE:
Oh, so now you are trying to make people believe that James Shore went back into the sweat lodge to try to save Kirby Brown then passed out and died in the process with no one shouting out that there was something wrong with James Shore??
THAT'S A LIE!!!!
I HAVE THE TESTIMONY RECORDED!!!!!!
YOU CAN'T TRICK ME AS EASILY AS YOU TRICK OTHERS, YOU LIAR!!!
FIND OUT WHO YELLED THAT KIRBY WAS FINE WHEN SHE WAS ACTUALLY DYING
YOU DON'T KNOW WHO DID IT
I SAY ALL EVIDENCE POINTS TO JAMES SHORE
UNTIL YOU CLEAR THIS MATTER UP YOU WILL NEVER KNOW FOR CERTAIN
IN YOUR HEARTS YOU KNOW I AM RIGHT!!!
JAMES SHORE WAS DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR KIRBY BROWN'S DEATH
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HERE IS THE BIG PROBLEM FOR WHICH MR RAY IS COMPLETELY RESPONSIBLE:
It's was James Arthur Ray's event
It was James Arthur Ray who decided they didn't need paramedic personnel on duty for the TWO-HOURS of the sweat lodge event.
ONLY TWO-HOURS, FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!!!!
Well, Mr Ray didn't think that was necessary
BIG MISTAKE THAT ENDED UP SENDING HIM TO JAIL!!
Now, I'm sure we can agree on that, correct?
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WHAT WOULD IT HAVE COST, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!!
WHAT WOULD IT HAVE COST TO HAVE PARAMEDICS ON DUTY
FOR THE TWO-HOURS OF THE SWEAT LODGE EVENT?!!!
THAT'S ALL IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN
JAMES ARTHUR RAY WAS FULLY RESPONSIBLE
FOR NOT HAVING THEM ON DUTY THOSE TWO-HOURS
FOR THIS HE ENDED UP GOING TO JAIL!!
((( FOOL!!! )))
I don't consider myself some great spiritual leader, but I would see the value of having paramedics on duty for those two-hours. Especially with a recent New York Times bestseller to fall back on.
DUMB, DUMB, DUMB, DUMB...
I can't write enough "dumb" to properly describe just how dumb it was not to hire them!!!
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THERE IS A CORE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOU AND I, COSMIC CONNIE
((( YOU WANT DONATIONS )))
((( I DON'T!! )))
That completely shapes the difference in the way we post and the types of posts we share
YOU'RE A BEGGAR
I AM NOT!!
Of course, you will support ANY STAND that will lead to donations. Well, you ain't gettin d*ck from me, birch*!!!
*That's a duck and a tree
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
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Okay, let's get real here. SOMEONE should point blank ask James Arthur Ray:
'Suppose the situation was reversed and you signed a waiver promising to take full responsibility for your actions at the "warrior" event. Would you keep your promise or would you break it if slick lawyers offered you a way to make money by doing so?'
SOMEONE SHOULD OPENLY ASK JAMES ARTHUR RAY THIS QUESTION!!!
My guess is that Mr Ray would openly say that he is an honorable person and would keep his promise no matter how much money was offered him to break it.
THAT'S WHAT BEING HONORABLE IS ALL ABOUT!!!!!
Of course, this is BEYOND the comprehension of you dishonorable people who will break your promises IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT!! You'd break a promise to your own mothers, if the price was right!!!!
NEXT:
I SEE THE OVERALL PROBLEM BETWEEN US
YOU are of the school of thought that I must care for people who don't care about me to be truly "righteous". Obviously, you all feel that Mr Ray should be held responsible for the death of those three "SUPPOSED WARRIORS*"
*PEOPLE WHO REFUSE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR OWN ACTIONS
ARE NOT WARRIORS!!!
Instead you felt Mr Ray should be held responsible for their deaths as though they were mentally retarded five-year-old children. You don't want them to be treated like responsible adults who made THEIR OWN CHOICES. You want those three to be treated as though they were irresponsible children with mental impairment.
THAT'S THE CORE OF IT!!!
IF THEY WERE TRUE WARRIORS THEY WOULD HAVE KEPT THEIR PROMISES
AND TAKEN FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR ACTIONS, PERIOD!!
That's what true warriors do, period!! You don't want to take responsibility for your own actions then you are NO TRUE WARRIOR!!!
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Okay, let's look at this matter from a different perspective. You and I are at that very same sweat lodge event. We are sitting together talking about how friggin hot that sweat lodge is and that we are hesitant to go in for another round.
James Shore, Kirby Brown and Liz Neuman come up to us encouraging us to go back into the sweat lodge. YOU AND I both feel as though we had had enough. Would you go back in because Kirby Brown, OR ANYONE ELSE, encouraged you to do so, or would you listen to your body and not go back into the sweat lodge?
Suppose YOU are so encouraged by them that you go back into the sweat lodge and you get injured.
WHO IS TO BLAME FOR THAT?
JAMES ARTHUR RAY OR YOU???
Who is to blame that I chose not to go back into the sweat lodge? James Arthur Ray or ME???
Can you see the logic here?
Probably not.
IF YOU FEEL IT IS TOO HOT DON'T GO BACK IN, YOU IDIOT!!!
NO MATTER WHO SAYS WHAT!!!
You people are trying to treat Mr Ray as though he forced those people to participate!!!
You treat him as though he forced those people to participate and three of them died!!
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Again I say, all Mr Ray would had have to have done was hire an emergency medical unit to be there for the two-hours of the sweat lodge event and...
HE WOULD NOT HAVE HAD TO GO TO JAIL!!!
Mr Ray decided he didn't need such an emergency unit and, AS A RESULT, was convicted and went to jail.
THAT IS THE CORE OF IT AND YOU KNOW IT!!!
YES, MR RAY IS FULLY RESPONSIBLE FOR NOT HIRING THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL UNIT
YES, MR RAY THOUGHT HE KNEW BETTER AND, I STRONGLY DOUBT, IF I WAS THERE ANYTHING I WOULD HAVE SAID WOULD HAVE CONVINCED HIM OTHERWISE
FOR THIS, MR RAY IS FULLY GUILTY!!!
HE WAS AN IDIOT AND PAID THE PRICE FOR BEING AN OVERLY-CONFIDENT, MORONIC, JACKASS IDIOT!!
If you are honest we can most certainly agree on this, right?
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To be perfectly honest, this whole James Arthur Ray incidence scared the living crap out of me. I felt God was showing me what can happen if the Spirit of the Universe turns against you.
I HAD TO BELIEVE that no such thing would EVER happen to me without first being given AT LEAST THREE clear warnings from the Universe. I only knew of one such warning and it happened the year before AT THE VERY SAME SWEAT LODGE EVENT and at Angel Valley, I believe. A woman came out of the sweat lodge and, for a while, was gibbering nonsense. She was a friggin proverbial 'basket case'!
The incident would have been enough warning for me to hire emergency personnel for the two-hours of the sweat lodge event FROM THAT TIME ONWARD!!! That Mr Ray ignored such a warning from the Spirit reeks of over-confidence. He was obviously too sure of himself and no one could get through to him!
BIG MISTAKE!!!!!
He lost most everything and went to jail as a result.
I think he's learned his lesson
I certainly hope so!
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TO REV RON:
IF YOUR PROMISE MEANS NOTHING IF YOU CAN MAKE MONEY BY BREAKING IT
((( YOU ARE HUMAN SCUM, PERIOD!! )))
IF YOU WENT TO THE SWEAT LODGE EVENT PROMISING TO TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS
AND BROKE YOUR PROMISE TO MAKE MONEY, THROUGH SLICK LAWYERS,
YOU WOULD BE DISHONORABLE HUMAN SCUM AND NO TRUE WARRIOR!!!
LIKE IT OR NOT, THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE, O GREAT REV!
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So, you are absolutely certain Mr Ray is just a scam artist, eh?
Nothing he has shared has any real value, eh?
You are absolutely certain he was lying in this recent interview, right?
https://youtu.be/3FiYOCtJGbo
GET REAL, CONNIE!!!
That is what you WANT to believe and absolutely REFUSE to believe otherwise no matter how much evidence is presented to the contrary
That's the way it is with you Godless atheists. You blindly feel you have it all figured out. In fact you are a bunch of blind faith in science idiots who pompously feel you know everything that can possibly be known!!
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Alright Con-artist-nee
Time for you to walk your talk
No one against The Secret has been able to pass this test
Let's see if you can succeed where all others have failed:
Here is a short summary of The Secret:
https://youtu.be/VIePKRqgGkY
List the three main things about this philosophy, from the video, that are obviously bogus
A)
B)
C)
Every skeptic I have challenged in this manner was not even able to get to "A". I predict you will not either because you are a SCAM ARTIST. You pass judgement against things when you DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!!!
That is why you will not be able to list the three main things about The Secret philosophy that you know are bogus!
YOU ARE A LIAR AND A SCAM ARTIST!!!
And you are about to be openly exposed as such!!!
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How about I give you some help because addressing three matters at once is OBVIOUSLY more than your puny intellect can handle.
The Secret essentially says that our thoughts, properly held and acted upon, literally create the circumstances of our lives.
A) Do you feel it is bogus to believe that how we think determines the type of lives we lead? If so. How so? Please be specific
Thanks
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The worst people you will ever come across always want to find something bad about good philosophies. If the Buddha said something great the Christians will put it down out of blind faith prejudiced ignorance
YOU ARE JUST LIKE THEM AND YOU HAVE PROVEN IT!!!
The Secret is a compilation and a modern building upon information about successful living known throughout the ages and put together in a nice commercial package by Rhonda Byrne.
So, you agree with the MAIN PREMISE The Secret teaches. The thoughts we think determine the life we lead. In harmony with that it is said:
If you believe you can do something or believe you can't, either way you're right
Do you agree with this premise as well?
BTW: You might find it interesting to know that I did not last so much as a week before being banned from the Official The Secret message board forum.
So much for unconditional love, right? New Agers and their bullshit "unconditional love". They ban me quicker than atheists do!!!
((( SPIT!! )))
I'm much too straight forward and honest for religious, New Agers or atheists to handle. You don't have to wonder what I'm saying behind your back I'LL TELL YOU DIRECTLY!!!!
James Arthur Ray doesn't like me and I don't think too well of him either. Warriors who refuse to defend themselves DESERVE TO HAVE THEIR BUTTS KICKED!!!
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CC WROTE:
All the powerful thinking in the world can't totally set the course of our lives. There are always external circumstances BEYOND OUR CONTROL....
MY RESPONSE:
You write this as though you are God of the Universe. I say it all depends upon how strong one's mind is. The average TV brainwashed idiot's mind is a mess. Give the philosophy to one with a mind as strong as the Buddha's and, chances are, the results may very well BLOW YOUR PUNY MIND!!
I have learned that there is indeed an intelligence behind Nature that regulates and determines what plant, or creature, will prosper and which one's will not. I've learned that to be on the good side of this Universal Intelligence is the key to making philosophies like The Secret fully functional.
The Secret alludes to this, but doesn't say it. Personally, I don't fully agree with ANYONE'S philosophy. My beliefs are ALWAYS UP FOR IMPROVEMENT.
If you are truly wise you will not be so certain what is or is not possible until you fully understand the role consciousness plays in our perception of "reality"
